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Goldtooth
09-26-2006, 09:29 PM
What does it point/lead to when braking under high speed, that the car feels like its losing control or wants to slide/veer out?

walec05
09-26-2006, 09:35 PM
alignment issue, or different pressure from each of the calipers. double check to see if they are sliding freely, because sometimes if one grabs harder than the other, youll have pull to that side.

Goldtooth
09-26-2006, 09:53 PM
the car was just aligned when we got new tires, about a month ago.

and the pressure from the calipers, would I feel anything on city roads? cuz it feels normal, I only feel the "veering" when stomping on the brakes coming down from like 100+

also, how would I go about checking the calipers?

walec05
09-26-2006, 10:00 PM
i dont know how you would go about checking them, ask a mechanic.

but what the fuck are you doing at a 100mph. ur fucking crazy

Goldtooth
09-26-2006, 10:10 PM
I was feeling....."emo-ish" i guess..... LMAO jk

DasTeknoViking
09-27-2006, 12:19 AM
could also be your bushings are worn out and the car is "squatting" apart under braking. Check your caliper sliders, even pull em out and gently grease em. Check for uneven brake pad wear. Under inflated tires will cause alot of "veering" at higher speeds too. Mine feels rock solid and brakes like crazy from 120+MPH, the hotter they get, the better they work.

Hawk HPS all around FTMFW !!!!!!!!!

Goldtooth
09-27-2006, 12:21 AM
I have Hawk HPS on the front and stock OEM on the rear. Tires arent under- inflated. I have them at like 38psi for the front and 35 for the rear.

Goldtooth
09-27-2006, 12:22 AM
could also be your bushings are worn out and the car is "squatting" apart under braking. Check your caliper sliders, even pull em out and gently grease em.
ehhh, I am not good at all with these bushing as far as location of them goes and replacing them, as I've never touched the brakes. same goes for the caliper sliders....:banghead:

DasTeknoViking
09-27-2006, 12:30 AM
what kinda tires are you on ? size and brand ? also plays a key role here.....

Bushings are in your subframe, lower control arms..... when they wear out the steering is all sloppy. Mine is comparable to that of a EVO, very go-kart like. The small steering wheel made a huge diff in steering response.

Goldtooth
09-27-2006, 12:37 AM
like-new Michelins, about or less than 1000 miles on them, 215/55/16? I believe, the stock SE size.

DasTeknoViking
09-27-2006, 12:49 AM
Too tall and narrow of a tire= soft sidewalls. Soft sidewalls + high speed = veeering, unpredictable handling due to sidewall flex.

My 245-40-18 wont even flex. My 185-65-14s on my Scoobie feel like they are going to roll off the RIM when I corner at even 1/4 of the speed I take those same corners in my Max.

Goldtooth
09-27-2006, 01:07 AM
sounds logical enough to me.....hehe

njmodi
09-27-2006, 09:32 AM
Too tall and narrow of a tire= soft sidewalls. Soft sidewalls + high speed = veeering, unpredictable handling due to sidewall flex.

My 245-40-18 wont even flex. My 185-65-14s on my Scoobie feel like they are going to roll off the RIM when I corner at even 1/4 of the speed I take those same corners in my Max.

+1 on this - I've got the stock 15" sawblades on my max and going around corners sux and secondly, under sudden hard braking - the car leans/veers for sure - i can just feel the tires compressing. As the tires wear, from repeated aggressive cornering, the tread may be acceptable, but the sidewall flex becomes a big problem. The only way to judge that is by the driveability - and I know my front tires, Yokohama Avid H4s, with 20k on them need replacement just because of the sidewall flex. Tread is still at 50%.