Tentative Schedule for Maxus 07

[Xmax]

This is the schedule that I'm hoping we will go by for Maxus in June. This schedule can also been seen on maxima.org.

June 22nd, Friday - Arrival, Meet and Greet at the Hotel (Hampton Inn of Hoffman Estates, IL). Schedules and misc things will be given to attendees.
23rd, Saturday - Quarter Mile Racing at Byron
24th, Sunday - BBQ and Carshow at Busse Woods
25th, Monday - Dyno Day
26th, Tuesday - Roadcourse Racing at the Autobahn Joliet, IL
27th, Wenesday - Farewell see ya guys in 2008, wherever the next Maxus will be.

[kkozy1982]

nice. have you gotten a response from the other guy?

[Xmax]

Nope going to call him today when I go on lunch.

[Xmax]

Well just called him no answer, so I left him a message. I will try tomarrow if he doesn't call me back today.

[kkozy1982]

Well just called him no answer, so I left him a message. I will try tomarrow if he doesn't call me back today.

alrighty.. lemme know if you want me to call him upr sumthin too.

[Kowalski]

we got autobahn for sure? NICE!

[Xmax]

we got autobahn for sure? NICE!
Not yet working on it. I haven't recieved a call from him today I'm going to try to call him tomarrow on my lunch break when I'm at work.

[Cousin Ryan]

Xander let me know if you want me to make any phone calls as well.

[Bluesbrekr]

Wow....5 days of Maxus. If Byron is going to be in the late afternoon and evening, I'd be more than happy to run a 'detail clinic' during the day. Anybody want to help?....cough....cough....Hector.....Prinz......

I'm going to wait a couple days before making my hotel reservations to see if we have Autobahn for sure or not.

[Xmax]

Byron is going to be during the day unfortunantly, they are open from 10am to sunset. But maybe we could get a detail clinic during the day of the meet and greet, or before the BBQ on Sunday.

I just called Craig at Private Track times, and he still hasn't answered his phone or called me back, I hope he does soon because I'm starting to lose my mind.

[aznsap]

i've never done a dyno before. if we went to dyno day, would we be able to tune if we had an AFC installed?

[Xmax]

i've never done a dyno before. if we went to dyno day, would we be able to tune if we had an AFC installed?

I never did either, probably, but more than likely its going to cost extra to tune with the AFC installed.

[Bluesbrekr]

Byron is going to be during the day unfortunantly, they are open from 10am to sunset. But maybe we could get a detail clinic during the day of the meet and greet, or before the BBQ on Sunday.

I just called Craig at Private Track times, and he still hasn't answered his phone or called me back, I hope he does soon because I'm starting to lose my mind.

Or how about Monday for the detail stuff? People may not get in till later Friday and I'm figuring Sunday would be a pretty full day. Monday might be a better choice, could be scheduled around the dyno time slot? Although it would be nice to have the detail before the show....

[Xmax]

Very true, detail and dyno would not be bad.

[Chefasaurus]

I'll offer my detailing services for this.

I've been certified twice by Meguiar's (automotive and marine), and received top detailing honors by Mike Phillips and Barry Meguiar.


Me thinks there's a LOT more money to be had detailing cars and yachts, than working in a 130 degree kitchen, for 14 hours a day, 6 days a week, for peanuts. I used to charge $12-14 per foot when I had my yacht detailing business in Jacksonville, FL, back in '05. Factor in my average boat was 50-60 feet... and you see how quickly the money adds up. :D 3 days work for almost a grand? Sure.


My fair warning for pricing, though... it will probably take longer than most detailers, it will be more expensive, but it is, without a doubt, THE BEST detailing that the car can receive. I charge 125 for a full detail, inside and out, and it takes almost a full day.

[Mr Grey]

I'm up to lend a hand Blues....I'm looking at picking up 2 PCs or something similar.


BTW Evan I'm on the same boat you are..no pun inteneded. it takes me nearly all day, but you get every penny worth. The sweat on my brow, and the aches tell it all.

[Chefasaurus]

We could tag-team the cars, and split the money 50/50. We could probably knock out 2-3 cars a day.

[Mr Grey]

We could tag-team the cars, and split the money 50/50. We could probably knock out 2-3 cars a day.

I'm already doing that with the lil bro on weekends......I still awant to perfect a technique to be more efficient. Either way, if I get busy enough i may call on you and all together we can knock out like 5 cars. i still need to see how 'business' si going to be this summer. i plan to dedicate most of my weekends to this.

[Bluesbrekr]

I wasn't planning on detailing whole cars at Maxus. I was proposing a 'clinic' to show others how to do the work themselves.

[Mr Grey]

I wasn't planning on detailing whole cars at Maxus. I was proposing a 'clinic' to show others how to do the work themselves.

I know...just stating i will have more tools to do maybe a couple of workshops quicker, and less crowded. :gotme:

[Xmax]

Workshops are good, detailing a bunch of cars is going to take way to much time.

[Mr.Duck]

so still no update on the autobahn eh? that sucks..

[Bluesbrekr]

Yeah, I'm waiting to hear about the road course before I make my reservations.

We could set up a few detail 'stations'. Maybe clay at one, polish at another, wax in another, interoir, rubber and trim, engine bay.....how many 'experts' do we have?

[Pablito]

well i know hector and ty are good, and chefasaurus obviously knows what he is talking about...

i think i can do a pretty good interior cleaning if were lookin to do this kinda setup

+1 on this station idea

[DasTeknoViking]

If you don't mind working outside in the sun I could probably ask my boss.

[Kowalski]

how many 'experts' do we have?

i work with clay... that's it...

hector, don't forget... i booked you the sunday before maxus...

[Mr Grey]

i work with clay... that's it...

hector, don't forget... i booked you the sunday before maxus...

I know homo....I'll probbaly spread it out over 2 weeks. I'll do most of the layering, you'll see. :pimp:

[Xmax]

Ok I finally got the call from Craig at Private Tracktimes this morning. (woohoo!!) Here is the info and requirements that he gave me in regards to renting it out. I would of posted it earlier today but for some odd reason at work CMC wasn't working at the time dunno why.

$5000 + insurance to rent out the North Course
$6000 + insurance to rent out the South Course which is bigger

25% of the rental fee is needed as a deposit to rent either course. The rest will be needed on the day of the event. So with the math done. Here are the figures of the deposit needed.

$1250 for the North Course
1500 for the South Course

This may seem a lot but if you figure in how many cars will be participating. I prefer to have the south course since it is bigger and I figure we will have more fun as well.
So in this case if we get lets say 100 cars running, it will be appoximately $60 per car. Which is cheap considering what you are getting.

So there will be a meeting this coming Sunday the first of April in regards to the track on Maxus. So you guys better make it.

[DasTeknoViking]

I know the south course would be more fun.... but lets be more realistic bout the $$$. And make it the north course for now.

We need to start acting fast. We got lil over 2 months left and we need to come up with some big $$$ to make this all happen.

We should make a thread on the .org and have everyone who is coming PAYPAL or send in the $$$ for the track event. I think 120 bux per person would cover the track and dyno day..... what do you say ?

100 Maximas is a bit of a stretch, althou we probably have easy 25 members here doing it.... 75 more is bit of a stretch.

But I am not sure..........

[Xmax]

Remember this event will be open to other cars. I have one local forum that is interested and the other two I still have to notify. So getting even 60 cars should not be hard.

[DasTeknoViking]

I think 120 per car with dyno day and picnic food would be good.... if we get 100 people/cars thats 12,000 dollars.

Which will cover the TRACK, the food, and the dyno day.

Remember the dyno day will not be cheap eighter. Not many will dyno, and if they do- 100 cars in 1 day is not going to happen.

I would say 80 bux for track + picnic.
120 for track+picnic+dyno.

Even if 50 cars wanna dyno thats still 2000 bux for the dyno operator.

You want the dyno operator to make some $$ on this also. Dynos cost alot of $$$ and runing them all day long also cost alot of $$$ to operate.

[Xmax]

Dyno fee will be paid directly to the shop that is willing to sponsor the dyno event. I know you are going to hate me for this Mike, but it might be AMS since I know the sales rep, Eric, there pretty well. And not only that they have a AWD dyno so if Jason want to dyno he can. If not Sound Performance but they only have a 2wd dyno. Those are the only two shops I know that has a dyno that are within a 15 mile radius of the hotel, and least amount of turns needed to take, which means less likelyness of getting lost.

We will discuss payment info at the meeting. So Mike please write down the info you just posted and bring it up at the meeting and we can disuss it there.

[DasTeknoViking]

What bout P&L Motorsports ? Greg (Grzesiu) here knows the owner pretty good....

If I am at the meeting- I hope I don't forget as usuall..... I will bring it up. I will program the meet into my phone so I don't forget.

[Xmax]

What bout P&L Motorsports ? Greg (Grzesiu) here knows the owner pretty good....

If I am at the meeting- I hope I don't forget as usuall..... I will bring it up. I will program the meet into my phone so I don't forget.

Oh yeah forgot about them.

[Cattman]

Hey guys,

OK if I get involved here? I'd comment on a few things - I've been through a couple of Maxus events in the past, and have organized similar events myself. Obviously I don't know the local scene in Chicago, but I can offer some advice.

I really like the variety of activities you're talking about, and using a single hotel site to sort of "headerquarter" the event. That will work the best, even if you have more Chicago participants than people coming from out of town. Otherwise, there's no "center" or convenient organizing point to the event and it gets way too loose. Better yet if you can use some of the meeting rooms. That's the way Maxus 99 was set up in Dallas, and I still think that was by far the best Maxima event ever held (but since I haven't attended every one, that's just my experience).

All-inclusive events like Dinners, etc. that put everyone in one room will really increase the level of "community" that is so critical to a positive experience at an event like this (good to do something like that on the front end). That's how people really get to know each other, and that's the key to having a great time.

The detailing workshop idea sound fantastic - giving some substance to the program would be a big improvement over previous Maxus events. Other topics might be worthwhile too.

Be real cautious about planning events that require big lump sums of money. I have never seen a Maxima event that attracted a large number of actual track, drag strip or dyno run participants (or at least not nearly as many as expected). The majority of the Maxus attendees are more likely to watch than participate - this is a predictable pattern. Turnouts for racing and dynor runs have always been a disappointment. Typically the idea starts out as a Maxima track day (but not enough people), then they decide to invite anybody with a car (still not enough people), then they try to find another car club to partner with (usually involving cars that will slap the shit out of Maximas on a track), and then when that doesn't pan out, they cancel on the eve of the event. Again, my point isn't to be discouraging, just trying to inject a historically-based note of realism. If you could make a track event work, it would be fantastic, but if it requires 75-100 cars it would be a miracle.

The idea of a several day event sounds great, but make sure its practical. Your best #s will obviously be on the weekend but participation after that will fall off radically. I think it would be neat if you could do something over 3 days, but 4 or 5 will be a real stretch. If it was 3 days, you'll be better off beginning on a Friday (or even kicking it off on a Thursday night) than carrying over to a Monday (there will be more participants on Friday than Monday).

Anyway, just some ideas. You guys know that you can count on us to help with sponsorship, right? Not tons of money, but we'll definitely help. I'm also planning (at least right now) to attend.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

[Cattman]

Regarding dyno events, I'll also mention that you want to use a roller-type dyno machine rather than the hydraulic type that bolts to the wheel hubs. Not because one is necessarily better than the other, but because its relatively quick to strap a car down and take it off a roller-type dyno so they work best for doing a group of cars. The dyno that bolts to the hubs is really slow (and boring) for a group event.

BCC

[Xmax]

Sounds like good suggestions Brian I'll look into that, but it seems like my main concern is that people on that org, will only go if we have a roadcourse event. Problem is coming up with the cash asap to reserve the spot. And no one is at least putting their name up on the headcount list so I could get a better idea if getting a roadcourse in the schedule is really worth it or not. But in a way its to early to say but we are not to far from the actual event. The two dynos that we are looking at are both roller-type dynos. This stuff is starting to stress me out but I'm working hard to make all of this happen.

Xander

[Cattman]

I'm not trying to discourage organizing some kind of race event at all, just putting some thoughts out there to help scale the event, or save someone from sticking their neck out financially. Unfortunately, I think the likelihood of registering 100 Maximas (or friends of Maximas) for a track day is practically zero.

To some extent you're right about the appeal of including a road course event, but the problem is that its always a minority of the participants that wants to race and the rest enjoy watching - everyone wants it, but only a minority will use (and pay for) it. I am just guessing, but I'd be surprised if more than about 30-40% of the participants would actually register and pay to race.

A lot of people don't want to take their cars on the track - usually due to lack of experience (and sometimes that's a good thing!) and/or that's not really the way their cars are set up. Others might be like me - I never race my car farther away from home than I can afford to tow it back.

Do you have local some help? Delegate, delegate, you can't do it all yourself.

How are your sponsorships coming along? Its pretty late in the game, but if you can get a group of sponsors to bankroll half of the track fee and get the track management to go down some too (doesn't sound like they're doing any special favors at all, know anyone with leverage there?) you might be able to pull it off, but one way or another, I think you'll have a hard time raising more than about $2k from individual fees.

What about other action in the Chicago metro area that weekend, any possibility of piggybacking on someone else's race event?

Brian

[DasTeknoViking]

Brian,

We hold a "Maxus" planing meet every month- sometimes even 2 times a month to collect some donation $$$ towards Maxus. Anything helps...and we are all pulling hard for this. We should have NO problem getting 25 people from HERE to go on the track. And at the same time this is not limited to JUST Maximas anymore as we know not many people do road racing.. so our 100 cars might not be something that we can't fill in.... it should be doable.

I have attended some SE-R conventions and I use those are a reference each time we have a Maxus meet.

I know where you coming from about the track.... but if 100 Sentras can go on a track, why not 50-70 Maximas ?

After all this is not a RACE, its going to be FUN HOT LAPPING. You can't put transponders on cars as that would be a big NO NO with the insurance companies for any of the participants. Its called a "driving school".

[nismo3112]

Sorry if this has been said already, but will the dyno day consist of a dyno+tune or just dyno?

[Xmax]

Well its up to the shop. But more than likely if you want to get your car dyno tuned that its probably going to cost extra if you where to just dyno. Dyno location TBA.

[Kowalski]

just dyno... the tuning can most likely be done by the shop for some extra $$$...

[Xmax]

Who's going to make it tomarrow?

[Greeneyes]

Does anyone know the exact time that these things will be going on at? Im planning on attending most of the functions but Id like to know what time these are being scheduled for.

[DasTeknoViking]

Do we have a dyno day set up ?

[Xmax]

I have yet to make the phone calls or visits for the dyno, but it will more than likely have to be on a Monday. Today I ordered the trophies, there will be 15 trophies given out. If you don't like the look of them then tuff. But I'm pretty sure that the majority of the people will like them. I was able to get the figurine on top of some of the trophies to be something close to a Maxima.

[DasTeknoViking]

15 trophies ? dang what kind of classes are we going to have ? I'm sure there won't be any 1st gens, and I doubt any 2nd gens....

I'm going to have my old lady show up with my 3rd gen to collect the 3rd gen trophy ;)

[Xmax]

Here are the classes in case you guys are wondering. Im going based on the head count list on the org, so I don't want to hear any whining.

Best 6th, 5th, 4th, 1st thru 3rd Generation
2nd Place 6th, 5th, 4th, 1st thru 3rd Generation
3rd Place 6th, 5th, 4th, 1st thru 3rd Generation
Best ICE (In Car Entertainment)
Best Overall
Best Other Nissan/Infiniti

If your going to be a judge you cannot enter your car in the show.

[Kowalski]

i would like to judge... my car can no longer be entered...

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

you got into an accident on the way home, didn't you?

[Brian]

I'll judge.
I don't own a car worth entering...

please make all bribes in cash

[97SMG]

you got into an accident on the way home, didn't you?

:glare: Wait to you hear this one

[Kowalski]

only a few will hear this story... PLEASE do not spread it around...

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

well, what is the story???

[97SMG]

only a few will hear this story... PLEASE do not spread it around...

Dude I wont, dont worry. Its not like you did anything and it wasnt your fault.

[Kowalski]

Dude I wont, dont worry. Its not like you did anything and it wasnt your fault.

i blame tires... time to upgrade...

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

yep, I agree......

[DasTeknoViking]

I'll judge.
I don't own a car worth entering...

please make all bribes in cash

Whats your paypal addy ?

[Brian]

Whats your paypal addy ?
that's not cash :sleep:

[97SMG]

i blame tires... time to upgrade...

Time for an emergency evacuation button / parachute.

[Kowalski]

i'll install that under the brakes for when they get slammed on... won't even need to think while using natural instinct...

[Xmax]

Please stay on topic guys.

[Biggs]

is the schedule on the first page still the current one?

[aznsap]

is the schedule on the first page still the current one?

ya sorry, is there a detailed schedule out for locations (including addresses) and times?

[Rocky]

I third that request, I'm planning on heading out pretty early tomorrow and would like to know what's up.

[Xmax]

The schedules will be handed out at the hotel. But here is a quick run thru of what the schedule is like.

Friday - Meet and Greet at Hampton Inn 3pm - 7pm
Dinner at around 7:30pm at Giordano's
Cruise to the City and back at around 10pm

Saturday - 9am - Breakfast for those that at the hotel.
9:45 to 10am leave for Byron
12pm Arrive at Byron
5pm - leave Byron
6pm - Dinner
8pm - Chicago Indoor Racing

Sunday- BBQ/Carshow
$5 for food
$5 for Beer (only 21 and up)
$10 for entry for the carshow
Raffle tickets will vary

Monday - Farewell day
For those that are staying we may go somewhere fun like Great America, or to the Lake.

Tuesday -Recover day. Get your sleep on.

[Kowalski]

$10 for entry for the carshow

carshow without judges i hear... POINTLESS!!!

[DasTeknoViking]

I think we should let EVERYONE decide which car looks best for the categories we have. People will receive ballots where they will need to write in- what car they personally like.

I will try to make it tonite ;)

[walec05]

yea, that sounds like a good idea mike.

ill try to make it on saturday night (well, thats if you guys dont mind me coming) i would love to make it for the bbq and car show, but im going to be at the lake till about 3-4pm.....possibly later.

[Bluesbrekr]

There are 2 ways to judge a car show.

Objective - based on specific facts/criteria. Using a point system for evaluating things like interior, exterior, engine bay etc. Only a few people are judging.

Subjective - Everyone is a judge. Each chooses what they like best based on personal opinion/taste.

Both have good and bad points.

[Brian]

you typically jubge both ways.
but this show won't be that large. I'd be surprised if more than 20 cars entered.

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

carshow without judges i hear... POINTLESS!!!
yeah, guess what smart cookie came up with that idea. I'll give you one guess....

[Brian]

it wasn't me!!!

[97SMG]

yeah, guess what smart cookie came up with that idea. I'll give you one guess....

His name rimes Freddie :wall:

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

uhhh, you? no...

[DasTeknoViking]

I brought it up..... I think it gives everyone a fair chance. Let the people decide on their favorite ride.

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

it was partially jez which sucks cause with me judging he would've swept the damn show. He came up with the new idea but he wasn't the one who wanted to get rid of the judges...

[DasTeknoViking]

I know you told me that ;) But I don't care if I don't win, my hood looks like ass because the clearcoat is all messed up. I seen some clean Maximas on the .org which are supposed to be coming, so it wouldn't be fair to those guys if they didn't even get a chance at the trophy.

If I win, cool..... if not I am not going to be mad bout it. My car gets used, abused and all. Not a garage queen like some .orgers.

[Pablito]

which hampton inn and which giordanos?

[Xmax]

Paulo, and to all that are going to be eatting dinner, change of plans, we will be eatting dinner at the hotel. 2825 Greenspoint Parkway Hoffman Estates. Tried to make reservations at Giordano's looks like the place will be packed. So I might as well have the pizza delivered at the hotel. So if you guys want pizza let me know. call me at 630-965-5177. We need to know in the next two hours so we know how much to order.

[DasTeknoViking]

Seems like the Ohio Krew is here already.... been calling me all afternoon. Bishes.

[f550maranello2]

alright so what time is the cruise officially... cuz im going..

[DasTeknoViking]

I talked to Xander, 10PM.

If anyone wants to roll in my car I got room. I left the 5th gen at work as they are finishing the bumper up tonight.... I took a car from work home.

06 M45 FTW.

[THT]

I talked to Xander, 10PM.

If anyone wants to roll in my car I got room. I left the 5th gen at work as they are finishing the bumper up tonight.... I took a car from work home.

06 M45 FTW.

That M sure looks like a turd :squint:

[TurTLe]

10 from the hotel down there?

is the track day still going on? makes a diffrence if i should fill up now or not.

[Jono98max]

on my way now!

[Nissan 6]

that was fun.

[Mr Grey]

Track is still happening in the am. It will be Byron Dragway in case anyone is wondering. I believe the schedule plan is to leave no later than 9:30am or 10am. Xander will post more details.

[TurTLe]

please post before you leave so people like me who probaly will meet you guys there will know about when to show up.

kinda like today

[aznsap]

anybody know where in busse woods is the car show? busse woods seems pretty big
and is this one the one in elkgrove village (busse woods turns up a few different spots in mapquest)

[Xmax]

As of right now its cloudy in Byron, and by the looks of the radar the rain should let up. I won't find out till about 10mins before we leave. But if the rain doesn't let up, we will go to the Volo museum. In Volo, IL in McHenry County.

Busse woods near the Higgins/Golf exit off of Higgins Rd. There will be a sign for which entrace Maxus will be in. If you get lost my number is 630-965-5177