bosch design III injectors

[Kowalski]

anybody have any experience with them? i have read a couple reviews and people love the benefits they provide... so far, some results include: 2-3 extra mpgs, improved throttle response, better overall power delivery (especially at lower RPMs)

"the main difference between the Bosch Design II and Design III is that the design II has a single output port and the Design III has a four hole output port. Presumably this is for better atomization at lighter throttle."

they go for around $350 for 8 but I managed to score them for $50 :spend:

[Oolatec]

Got any links to these?

[Nissan 6]

these guys made spark plugs i didnt like, or was it the other way around

[Kowalski]

Got any links to these?

i got them from somebody on bimmerforums.com that wrecked his car before he could install them...

here is the site that most people on bimmerforums buy from:
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsBMW.asp

list for nissans (actually, i am unsure if they are even available for nissans...):
http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_SetsNISSAN.asp

these guys made spark plugs i didnt like, or was it the other way around

no idea what you are talking about but bosch pretty much makes everything for BMWs so :nunchucks:

[wizard8873]

these guys made spark plugs i didnt like, or was it the other way around

I know for the Altima they were a big no-no. everyone had problems with them on nissanclub.

[Kowalski]

spark plugs or injectors?

[wizard8873]

spark plugs

[ColombianMax]

Bosch makes everything for most European cars, if not everything. Kinda like nippodenso, hitachi, and ngk with nissan, honda, toyota and so on..

All I know is that it should be kept on the Euro cars and off everything else as it'll be crap.

I would however like to point something out that Paul and Mike can probably back me up on is that Bosch is the only manufacturer for maxima injectors and everything else is remanned or renamed

[DasTeknoViking]

Maxima injectors where made by JECS which was affiliated with Nissan back in the 90s/ early 2000 till they went bankrupt. Nissan switched to a few diff ECU makers in the year 2000 on the Maxima.... I think there are like 20 diff ECUs for year 2000 alone !

Bosch makes some OK stuff, VW tends to use alot of Magneti Marelli (alot of it made in Poland, Slovakia), Beru, Bosch and Hella.

For some reason Jap/German don't mix well. Stay clear from them.... my car for instance runs on NKG Iridium plugs from the factory, and they say change them every 40k miles. Which is a good idea, ask Paul how are the platinum 105K mile plugs on Sentras doing.

[walec05]

ask Paul how are the platinum 105K mile plugs on Sentras doing.

thats called a head job :eww:

[chiquae07]

For some reason Jap/German don't mix well. Stay clear from them.... my car for instance runs on NKG Iridium plugs from the factory, and they say change them every 40k miles. Which is a good idea, ask Paul how are the platinum 105K mile plugs on Sentras doing.

yea, mine were fine at 100k, but ive seen people that come into work and show me their 100k plug, and it bearly looks together lol. its sad.

[DasTeknoViking]

thats called a head job :eww:

Warranty ?

[walec05]

nope. powertrain is only 6-60. shit out of luck, thats what its called.

like weve had a few people come in for 90k service and the plugs break off in the head because they are siezed. so what do the mechanics do.....dont replace the plugs on the sentras and 4cyl altimas on high mileage services.

its just a crappy design on those cars....others are perfectly ok. and im talking about the 1.8 and 2.5L motors only

[ColombianMax]

Longest I've gone with same spark plugs is 30k but that was on V-Power or whatever they're called I know they're "copper"

Hey Mike...didnt JECS make the MAFs as well? I've seen a purple tag on most 89+ maxima mafs

[DasTeknoViking]

V power NGK coopers are good.

See if this was a Honda product, what would happen is they would send out some Honda engineers to look at the problem, and then they would take care of the repair car by car basis as good will warranty. Honda cares about their customers, and in todays car world..... Customer Satisfaction is their #1 goal !! If people are not happy with the service they WILL go some other place. In todays world everything is customer service satisfaction based.

Ever walk into your favorite store like Jewel, Dominicks, Home Depot, Menards and have like 4-5 people politely ask you if you need any help or ask you how you where doing and if you needed any help ? Try this about 4-5 years ago you would be hard pressed to find a store associate anywhere.

How many times you read people say Nissan has got the worst customer service ? I heard it many times. They fuck you over for everything including their own design defects. This is why I won't buy another car from them.... friend of mine wanted to buy a 2.5L Altima, hes buying a Fusion tomorrow. Why ? Cause FORD actually makes some decent cars these days.

[RobSE]

nope. powertrain is only 6-60. shit out of luck, thats what its called.

like weve had a few people come in for 90k service and the plugs break off in the head because they are siezed. so what do the mechanics do.....dont replace the plugs on the sentras and 4cyl altimas on high mileage services.

its just a crappy design on those cars....others are perfectly ok. and im talking about the 1.8 and 2.5L motors only

Hmmm haven't read anything like this on b15sentra.net, but should I be worried with my SR20 powered vehicle? 73K miles on the odo.........

[ColombianMax]

Everytime I walk in Martin Nissan dressed all fancy I get all the sales people greeting me and offering me assistance, they get so dissappointed when I tell them "thanks I'm getting some parts"

the other day when I was buying my replacement core support they came up to me asking if I needed any help, I was like yes, I'd like to take the GT-R for a test drive please, dude just laughed with me lol

[walec05]

nah, shouldnt worry too much. if you are worried. take them out and put some of that antiseize stuff on there.

[ColombianMax]

make sure its antiseize and not thread lock lol

[wizard8873]

How many times you read people say Nissan has got the worst customer service ? I heard it many times. They fuck you over for everything including their own design defects. This is why I won't buy another car from them.... friend of mine wanted to buy a 2.5L Altima, hes buying a Fusion tomorrow. Why ? Cause FORD actually makes some decent cars these days.

i've found it to be a dealer to dealer experience. some are complete shit while others are great and actually treat you nice. then again, have 5 nissan dealers to choose from where i'm at and only one is shit. i've heard just as many good things about honda and toyota dealerships as well. every manufacturer has its bad cars and good cars.

[ColombianMax]

i've found it to be a dealer to dealer experience. some are complete shit while others are great and actually treat you nice. then again, have 5 nissan dealers to choose from where i'm at and only one is shit. i've heard just as many good things about honda and toyota dealerships as well. every manufacturer has its bad cars and good cars.

I will concur with this statement:pounce:

[Kowalski]

which sparks would you recommend, mike? bosch supers or ngk coppers? e34 drivers love both of those and only recommend either of those... problem is, there is no clear winner... it's a 50/50 split...

[f550maranello2]

i would go with the NGK's

[DasTeknoViking]

Its not Beru from OEM ? majority of older DTMs used Beru. NGK are the best IMHO.

[Kowalski]

nope, bosch... 2 votes on ngks on here so i guess they win :D